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紐約市立大學The City University of New York

紐約立大學The City University of New York,常簡稱為CUNY﹙唸作Ku-Ni﹚,是全美最大的市立大學,一共有11所老學院,6所商業學院,一個研究所與一個新聞學校、一個法律學校,全校學生約有45萬人,藝術相關科系當中,杭特學院Hunter College可說是唸CUNY MFA的首選學校。

CUNY雖是美國最大的市立學校,但還不是最大的公立學校呢! 前兩名是SUNY和CSU的公立學校系統,此外,經常有人會把SUNYCUNY搞混,畢竟紐約州立大學和紐約市立大學,也只有一個字的差別咩。

華爾街日報評比2020年性價比最高的十大學校Best Value College, 讓我們恭喜CUNY就有三家分校入榜,紐約大學立大學城市學院(City College of New York)中排名第一,紐約市立大學柏魯克學院(CUNY Bernard M. Baruch College)和紐約市立大學亨特學院(CUNY Hunter College)。都有入榜。

2020.2.22 資訊更新

http://www.cuny.edu

http://www.facebook.com/QueensCollege

由於CUNY的學院眾多,每個學院不是什麼”藝術學院”這樣稱呼,而以所在校區或是創辦人等稱呼,可說是各自為政的局面。所以有提供MFA的系所就顯得有點亂,之前我一直沒有介紹,主因也是這所學院並沒有在USNEWS的30名排行榜上,但是在紐約我也遇到過學姐在CUNY唸電影,其實他們的師資是很不錯的,不少在地的紐約人﹙PS.窮人﹚都是唸CUNY。該校的系統我就不一一介紹,主要介紹有提供藝術相關的MA或MFA學校。底下就依各學院來介紹

PS. 申請系統也是各學院各自為政,要張大眼睛看喔!

杭特學院Hunter College

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/

杭特學院Hunter College也有人翻作「亨特學院」,位於曼哈頓, 有MFA in Art。還有MA in Art History。是CUNY創立時的主要學校之一。該校可說是唸CUNY MFA的首選學校之一,研究生約有5743人,裡面又分四大部,藝術系藏在第一個「藝術與科學」部下面,知名的校友有名雕塑家羅伯莫里斯Robert Morris。設計得不錯的藝術系網頁。Hunter College在紐約其實是蠻有名「便宜又大碗」的學校喲!有四種相關主修可以選,而且不像一般的MFA要六十學分,他只要四十八學分喔!

  • Art History
  • Art Studio (MFA)
  • Intergrated Media Arts (MFA)
  • Theatre (MA)

Welcome Center Information
695 Park Avenue · Room 100, North Bldg. · New York, NY 10021-5085
(T) 212-772-4490 · (F) 212-650-3336 · (E-Mail) WelcomeCenter@hunter.cuny.edu

CUNY學院﹙簡稱為City﹚

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http://csauth.ccny.cuny.edu/

1.藝術系網頁 有MA或MFA in Museum Studies (約30學分,另有特別的都會博物館主修)
2.媒體傳播系網頁 有MFA in Media Art Production 可分有下列專修:Writing/Directing for Fiction, Writing/Directing for Documentary, Camera/Lighting, Editing or Producing/Production Management
3.戲劇系網頁, BA only

Dr. Harriet F. Senie, Director of Museum Studies and Art History
CG-230 (2005-2006 Sabbatical leave)
Tel. 212 650 7430
E-mail: hfsenie@nyc.rr.com

Graduate Center

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CUNY的研究中心Graduate Center 提供有PHD in Art History。博士生的學費是一學分$560美元。
另外也有PHD in THEATRE和PHD in MUSIC

Room: 7201
Telephone: 1-212-817-7470
admissions@gc.cuny.edu

Office of Admissions
The Graduate Center
The City University of New York
365 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10016

里曼學院Lehman College

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位於BRONX區, 有MA或MFA in Art。MFA的主修有四種:digital media, graphics, painting, and sculpture。另外有M.A. PROGRAM IN ART (CREATIVE ART),在藝術教育方面也有小學美術老師的課程Master of Arts in Art Education (N-12)

戲劇方面也有M.A. Program in Theatre,由The Department of Journalism, Communication and Theatre這個系提供(此系類似媒體傳播學院, 不過亦混合了戲劇)

Lehman College
Office of Graduate Admissions
Shuster Hall, Room 150
Phone: 718-960-8702

Note: Graduate applicants should also consult the individual departments or programs to which they are applying.

皇后學院Queens College

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在皇后區,有MA in Art History;另有MFA in Studio Art。厚!不要小看這個學校,申請QC的MFA in Studio Art,可要托福600分,而且大學要是BA,還要有30個藝術相關的學分。國外學生一律都需要面試。(藝術系網頁)

Location: Jefferson Hall, Room 105
Admission office Telephone: 1-718 997-5200
Queens College, The City University of New York, 65-30 Kissena Blvd, Flushing NY 11367

史泰登島學院College of Staten Island

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提供MA in Cinema and Media Studies。這家學校位於史泰登島上﹙史泰登島雖然是島、但是面積很大喔!﹚簡寫為CSI,也就是跟現在﹙2006﹚很紅的CSI犯罪檔案是一樣的CSI喲!申請這個主修,雖然只有MA學位﹙36學分﹚,但是申請條件可不容易呢!依校方的說明,需要有GRE,還要附上12頁以film為主的writing sample。另外在大學時要有以人文藝術為主修的BA或BS學位。

2800 Victory Boulevard
Staten Island NY 10314
(718) 982 -2000

布魯克林學院

位於布魯克林(廢話!!) 有MFA in Art。還有MA in Art History。

5306 Boylan Hall • 2900 Bedford Ave.
Brooklyn, New York • 11210
Telephone: 718-951-5181

CUNY就讀心得

2010.11.30 Mia與站長阿福的對話

1。 您在申請前,是怎麼知道Hunter College Art Studio的呢?對該系有什麼了解?就讀後又對Hunter College Art Studio有什麼感覺呢?
Hunter MFA是我申請後段時才聽一位剛從東岸辦完展覽的老師提起這個program,他提到這個program現在在紐約很hot叫我查看看。 後來真正深入了解是自己在網路上亂找到幾個正在就讀Hunter MFA的學生,跟他們通了電話後覺得這就是我要的環境所以也變成我的第一志願。

Hunter MFA基本上很像在學校和藝術家駐村之中,整個program學生引導性很重,學校老師也很尊重學生的想法,例如說每個學期的visiting lecture…等會是學生會安排,學生甚至可以向外找喜歡的藝術家申請作為指導老師,如果你清楚自己在做什麼老師會給予很大的支持。 就讀後的感覺跟之前了解得差不多。

2。據說Hunter College Art Studio是紐約頂尖的藝術科系,能不能提一下您在這方面的看法?
頂尖我不知道怎麼判斷耶…只能說他的學費便宜(跟私立藝術學校來比),資源又多,每個學生分到的studio超大(和其他在紐約的藝術研究所比。 最小的studio也有六坪左右加天花板挑高),地理環境不錯(時代廣場旁),學生風氣強,open studio時紐約藝術圈大部分都會來看一下…之前我在古根漢美術館工作,碰到代理館長他有跟我說”Hunter MFA是紐約最好的MFA。 You’re lucky…”

3。Hunter College的校園如何? Art Studio系的系館設備好嗎?
Hunter MFA沒有校園,整個program是在一棟七層樓的建築裡,由於以前這裡是工廠所以當藝術工作室最好不過。 整棟裡有一百多間工作室,工作室有些是獨立的空間(最大間有十五坪左右可以看曼哈頓mid town夜景,不過大工作室通常是由高年級先選,其他小間由新生猜拳決定)有些是由一個大面積所隔成的一間間,這些不規則工作室是由以往的學生隔出來的然後新生繼續沿用,有時候你會看到牆壁上多個小洞只是為了方便進出>_<,有些工作室甚至有隔層也是學生自己搞的,基本上空間處理老師不干涉,就因為這些空間複雜有趣導致open studio吸引很多人來看。

至於其他的設備還好耶,沒有美美的電腦教室也沒有美美的學生休息室…如果你要找的是那種很新很完整的設備學校Hunter MFA不會是你要的。

Flickr上搜尋hunter+college+art+studio

PS因為建築之前是工廠所以有大電梯做超大作品完全沒問題喔~

4。 您認為Hunter College Art Studio的師資好嗎? 它們的課程規劃如何?
老師多半是紐約的藝術家,也有MOMA的策展人來教理論的課。

課程跟其他MFA差不多規劃,studio課就是做作品然後present學生輪流評,在美國的BFA或MFA老師多半不太講話,希望學生自發性討論(有興趣可以參考一本書Sarah Thornton的藝術市場探密其中一篇Cal arts 的MFA研究生的課堂紀錄,寫得非常貼切) 研一下的學生需要通過不同科系老師的審查才可以開始做畢業作品。

5。 您系上的國際學生多不多? 都是來自什麼國家呢?
系上的國際學生不是很多,同屆有一到兩個韓國日本學生。

6。 您認為Hunter College Art Studio的畢業生找工作容易嗎?
讀Hunter MFA是培養學生當藝術家,至於畢業後能不能當藝術家很難說耶…不過Hunter MA出來找藝術行政相關工作應該還算ok吧~

7。 Hunter College跨系修課或是轉系方便嗎?
方便。

8。 Hunter College Art Studio的學費和生活費如何呢? 會有很多一般學費之外的支出嗎?
學費請參考網站,生活費就是一般住在紐約可多可少。 作品支出看個人。

9。 Hunter College藝術與設計學院的資源多嗎?校園中的藝術或設計活動多嗎?
資源多,因為Hunter MFA還是隸屬CUNY下所以要修心理學課要到本部用電腦都可以。 Program裡學生活動算多。

10。 當初申請Hunter College是否有遭遇什麼故事,想跟後來申請的同學分享呢?
當初申請Hunter MFA因為不認識任何人,所以透過google找到幾個畢業的學生,其中有位學長很好心跟我通過電話且告訴我可以面試時提起他的名子,我在面試結束時就跟面試老師說”oh,btw XXX says hello to you guys。” 老師就問我怎麼會認識XXX,我就跟他們說我為了要了解Hunter MFA所以我做了功課…老師當下大力讚賞我的用心,我想這部分應該很加分囉!

11。 Hunter College或是CUNY是否有華人同學會,組織運作如何呢?
沒有。

學費

2020-2021年學費以一學期修十二學分計算,約要$10,413.45美金。一年要$20,826.9美金

CUNY Hunter college 學費表

  • 2013-2014年學費以一學期修十二學分計算,約要$17,040美金。一年要$34,080美金
  • 2010~2011年 年學費以一學期修十二學分來,約要$14,054元美金。

看了一下,2010~2011年CUNY在MFA的學費,州外學生一學分是640美金。這在紐約市,真的算是很不錯的學費價錢,同一時期在紐約市的其他學校,如Pratt、Parsons、NYU、SVA、Columbia都絕對超過US$500一學分,NYU和Columbia甚至高過US$1000呢!因此雖然上列學校的門檻比私立學校要高﹙如幾乎都要求BA、BFA的背景、托福要高、要面試等等﹚但為了學費故,還是值得一試喔!

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  1. Pumpba:回郵信封的問題以前有討論過, 你可寫一封信表明你是國際學生無法取得美國郵票做回郵信封, 告知對方1.(慷慨的)作品不需退回, 如果你真的很想要作品退回, 就2.(賴皮的)作品我花了很多心寫…請免費幫我退回… 3.(折衷的)寫另一封信告知對方你會在9月的時候寄回郵信封給他, 請他保留作品到那個時候, 因為到時你會在美國

    flora
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  3. Hunter college of art 是一個很不錯的學校,我建議大家有興趣可以申請看看,所有我學校的老師都在介紹,還有在紐約讀藝術的朋友,還有遠在cranbrook讀書的老外們,還有今天認識一個從pratt畢業的學生後來來讀我們學校也大力介紹,雖然在台灣名聲還沒有很有名,但是聽說他們學費公道,又是以在紐約市中心聞名,因為地理關係而且常常會受到關注,總而言之,我聽到的只有好沒有壞,hunter 聽說已雕朔最棒!:smile::smile::smile:

    mia
  4. 不好意思,想請問mia或站長或申請過Hunter College的先輩
    我是今年大四的學生就讀台藝大
    Hunter College的條件中
    其中要有24學分在studio art領域、9學分的藝術史課程
    但我只有修過-藝術概論並沒有修過藝術史,
    而且學校的”藝術史”並沒有開到九學分….
    以及studio art領域中,包含設計課程嗎…
    希望可以為我解答這方面疑惑…
    還有我想申請Photography也希望得到些有經驗的人建議…
    謝謝

    Amelie
  5. 哈囉Amelie,有關藝術史的部份我想藝術概論應該可以是算入其中,不過有關設計課程可不可以算studio art我就不確定了.保險一點,最好還是到hunter那問看看(網頁上有電話),你是讀台藝大的攝影嗎?那攝影課應該不會算是設計阿?如果你今年底要申請hunter在跟我個人聯絡好了!

    mia
  6. 請問,我現在還在台灣唸大學(雙主修電影和戲劇),政府及學校有提供一筆獎學金可出國修一年國外學校的學分,不是以交換學生的方式去的,(國家和學校要自己選,申請的文件學校也要我自己辦),不知CUNY可否接受只修一年的戲劇課程呢? 如果不行的話,美國還有哪些學校可接受只修一年課程的學生呢?又,這種情況要如何申請呢? 謝謝

    Angela0001
  7. Hello, Angela,

    第一, “CUNY可否接受只修一年的戲劇課程呢?” 如果他們有MA的學位, 是有可能的, 美國其他學校如果有MA in Film or Drama or Theater Art…應該都是只有一年的課程, 你可以看一下這個主修頁裡的學校爬一下他們的系所網頁, 通常會有Degree或是Program的說明;

    第二, “這種情況要如何申請呢”, 嗯! 我之前也有遇到過這種詭異的問題, 就是大概是參加了教育部的什麼留學補助有錄取了, 但是申請什麼都叫學生自己來, 如何請錢也一問三不知, 更誇張的是已經有表定學校了, 說好了可以唸一年, 但是學生到了五月都沒有收到國內單位的通知,問說那他自己有沒申請, 也沒有?! 有沒有問那個國內單位?! 也沒有, 我聽了簡直挫呆, 這種情形也莫可奈何, 只能靠學生自己努力的和單位”洽談”, 誰提供你錢, 你就巴著他不放, 一定要問清楚最好還要有白紙黑字, 像是獎學金有多少? 申請的錢也自己出嗎? 等等…PS.你可以先列一個問題清單, 以免日後的困擾, 與錢有關的事往往都要一關一關一層一層來, 千萬要有耐心, 沒有問不到答案的問題, 只有問不對人的問題

    flora阿福站長
  8. 你好,我想請問這邊提到cuny各學院有各自的申請系統,
    是不是代表可以同時申請兩個不同學院下的program呢?
    我查了cuny跟幾個學院下的網頁資料,都沒有提到這方面的事情。
    請問有人知道嗎?或是有人曾經這樣申請過是ok的?
    謝謝!

    小子
  9. 幾乎所有學校都是可以同時申請兩個不同學院下的program, 但是我不知道是不是申請費要兩份就是了, 按照我的推想應該是要附上兩份申請費, 就這一點你直接詢問admission office會比較快喔!

    flora阿福站長
  10. 我有寄e-mail問他這個問題了
    我覺得有任何問題
    直接問學校比較快
    在這邊問會比較慢

    我也是想申請攝影的
    但DEADLINE其實已經過了

    在DEADLINE方面
    其實並沒有這麼晚
    以下是他回我的內容
    我簡化了一下

    1.
    If you would like to obtain a
    Graduate school application follow the link:
    http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/prospectivestudents/gradua
    te/matriculated.shtml

    The march 15th deadline is for undergraduate not
    graduate. The general deadline is April 1st but all international students should apply at least a month. The priority Deadline is recommend for international students and if your planning on using scholarship funds to pay for your studies. Art studio would be the program you are interested with and the deadline for that program is Jan 15th. You should remember that international students need to apply a little bit in advance.

    2.
    The difference between a non matriculated student and matriculated student?
    Matriculated students are in the program seeking a degree. A Non Matriculated student is just taking a few classes in the program and unable to receive a degree under that status. The tuition fee is also different along with the equirements. You should contact the advisor of your program which should be listed in the application
    once you download it from the link i provided above.

    aluileung
  11. 大家有要申請可以問我,現在program只有兩個台灣人,hunter因為是under在CUNY上,所以申請上比較複雜.我覺得台灣人來hunter讀要有心理準備,因為hunter在台灣完全不有名,第一是出國唸fine art的人就,第二是他並沒有在ranking上.可是現在開始讀才知道這fine art program在紐約真的很hot,我在artnet上有看到一段可以給你們做參考,這是一個藝術家在artnet上開的專欄,有個人問說他已經是專業畫家了,那MFA對他到底重不重要,因為他覺得沒有MFA degree的人履歷上看起來sloppy,這人在回答中他說現在的畫廊及畫商都會對從yale,columbia,hunter MFA畢業的人有好的反應.(The climate has changed. Collectors and dealers now respond to words like “Yale,” “Columbia” and “Hunter.” 翻譯太差…)
    從中可以看出hunterMFA已經再紐約佔一席之地,不過這些資訊是筆較從台灣的藝術圈難知道的.所以台灣和紐約的確有些斷層,這也是阿福站長那麼努力想要帶給我們更多的MFA留學資訊.所以對於那些要來唸hunterMFA而唸完要打算回台灣發展的人似乎也要把這些考慮進去.
    結論對於要藝術家為職業的人,MFA到底重不重要咧?那就請你看原文的專欄吧!
    http://alecsoth.com/blog/2006/10/18/faq-advice-regarding-mfa-degree/
    原處http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/authors/kostabi.asp

    mia
    1. 你好 我已经毕业在上海工作了半年 仍然想去hunter的artstudio 如果作为非美国人要申请补助是不是很难?你申请到了么

      art
  12. 阿福站長,我發現一篇好文有關想要以藝術家為職業的人要如何選擇MFA program,這是出自NYFA上(www.nyfa.org),但是需要註冊才可以看,所以我先把它貼在網上,如果你覺得不妥當請煩刪去,謝謝!:mrgreen:

    So you want to be an artist…By Ilana Stanger, Guest Writer

    Here are few things to consider when choosing an MFA program:
    1. Consider how many years you want the program to be.MFA programs usually take between one to three years, depending on the resources and the philosophy of the school. Danielle Taylor, who is in her last year at the University of Iowa’s painting program, was drawn to Iowa’s three-year MFA. “I wanted to do a three-year program because I worked at Penn’s [the University of Pennsylvania] Graduate School of Fine Arts and saw what the grad students went though,” she says. “The first year they’re just realizing what it is to be in grad school — to work independently. The second year they would get into a groove and then have to graduate in the middle of all this momentum. I’ve had a third year to prepare to enter the job market. I can still go to my studio every day, but I have a lighter class load and a year to make the transformation. So professionally I think it’s been really good.” Abigail Cohen, who studied photography at the Savannah College of Art and Design, had the opposite take: “Two years was a great amount of time. It was perfect. I didn’t want to be in school forever, I just wanted to get skills. Also, I was leaving a relationship behind, so I would’ve found it difficult to go to a three-year program. But two years were manageable.” Whenever you embark on a new phase of life you have to consider both your personal and professional goals. Think about both in terms of the amount of time you’ll spend in an MFA program.

    2. Check out the facilities.
    You should be given your own studio or a shared darkroom, as well as whatever equipment your discipline requires. One of the reasons Danielle chose Iowa was the private studios it offered its painting students. The studio has been crucial to her art; “a space where you can close the door and make a mess encourages risks because you’re less afraid to fail.” Abigail also found access to new equipment one of the most important benefits of the MFA program: “the equipment was amazing: computers and excellent labs. The types of things that I could use when I was in school were great.”
    Find out, before you apply, what sort of facilities and equipment you’ll have access to as an art student.

    3. Check out the community.
    How competitive is it? How diverse? Although Danielle praised the general resources offered by her MFA program, her fellow students and faculty disappointed her. “There is a community, but I’m not a part of it. It’s incredibly competitive. Everyone is fighting for scholarships, reputation, shows, attention. Social politics can be very difficult. There is a clique of students who really relate to faculty work, and they get much more supportive critiques. There are people who rip down posters that call for shows and hide them in their studio so no one else can enter.” Abigail also noticed competition in her program, but found that in the end the community was more supportive than competitive. “When you’re working with a group of people who are out there trying to get the same opportunities as you are then there’s definite competition, but at the same time you have to rely on each other for support. It’s such an intense period, when you’re working on creating art, and no one else is going to really understand where your brain’s at.”

    Frances Hahn, a second year Environmental Design major at the Ontario School of Art and Design, has found the community to be both the best, and the worst, part of her program. Says Fran, “25 people are all doing the same assignments and classes, so a real dialogue builds from critiques and assignments that continues outside the classroom. And the way you learn is mostly through conversations with your peers.” But, on the other hand, “the community can be stifling, and there’s the threat of all our work looking the same.”
    Once you’re admitted to a program, request the names and numbers of a few students in different phases of the program. Call them and ask about the social atmosphere.

    4. Think geography.
    Danielle purposely picked a safe city, ” I wanted to be able to work in my studio late at night and walk home. There’s no distractions here [Iowa City], there’s nothing to do except work.” But there’s also advantages to being in a more vibrant city. Fran appreciates that OCAD is “one of the centers of what’s going on in the art community of the city [Toronto]. We always hear about openings and exhibits.” Abigail chose SCAD, in part, because “the South was a different place-something I could explore using my camera.” Danielle adds that it’s best not to go to school with anyone from your undergraduate college: “It eliminates your chances of meeting people and expanding out.”
    John Moore, Monroe and Edna Gutman Professor of Fine Arts Chair at Penn’s Graduate School of Fine Arts, also stresses locations as one of the most important things to look for in an MFA program. Moore favors art programs on the East or West coast, “Because you want to be close to New York, or Los Angeles, or San Francisco. New York is the center of the art world. It’s important for graduate students to have access to New York in a direct way. The same thing goes for Los Angeles, or, to a lesser extent, San Francisco. You can see new work in magazines, but with visual art it’s at the actual presence of the work where the significant interaction takes place.”
    Take into account where your school is located, and what will that mean for your outside-the-classroom education. Also consider the cost-of-living in your new region: chances are you won’t have much spending money, and while the idea of the starving artist may be romantic, real-life participants tend not to recommend it. Which leads to:

    5. Look into the financial aid situation.
    Danielle chose Iowa, in part, because it is a state school and offered opportunities for TA-ships. In the end, she feels that the opportunity to TA was one of the most important. “It makes you responsible for the education of people coming out of art school who will be your peers, so you start thinking about what an art education should be, and how you can make your own art education better.”
    Many art schools offer TA opportunities; some even provide tuition remission and stipends. Think hard about cost before accepting an offer. Remember that this isn’t law school-it could take an artist many lifetimes to pay off art school loans.

    6. Inquire into the conceptual background of the school.
    Danielle is grateful for the time and space she’s been given in her MFA program but bemoans the lack of connection between her work and her peer’s. “I really suggest that prospective students look deeply into the conceptual backdrop of each school,” she warns. “If you paint figures, you want someone else who paints figures so that you have someone to talk to. People here don’t relate to my work, and that’s very difficult.”

    Figure out how theoretical you want a school to be, or how hands on, and don’t be afraid to ask admissions counselor and faculty members about their conceptual stance.

    Once you’re admitted to a program, request the names and numbers of a few students in different phases of the program. Call them and ask about the social atmosphere.

    7. Be prepared to teach.

    Danielle suggests that, if you’re not excited about teaching, you should apply for residencies instead. “A residency program can do as much as the MFA, in terms of giving you time and space to work.” Abigail, who teaches part-time, stresses that the MFA degree does not lead to lucrative careers. “You pay all this money for an advanced degree so that you can get a teaching job that pays nothing. The reason the job pays nothing is that you’re in love with your field. So they know that they don’t have to pay you anything–you’ll do it anyway.”

    The MFA is considered a terminal degree-meaning, unlike say an MA, there’s no other degree (Ph.D.) that might follow. The MFA qualifies you to teach. That’s it. Think about that.

    Once you’re admitted to a program, request the names and numbers of a few students in different phases of the program. Call them and ask about the social atmosphere.

    8. Study faculty work.

    Fran appreciates that all her instructors are all active artists. “They’re all working artists and designers, so they know the business side as well as the art side. There are ten instructors in my program, and I know them all.” Abigail found the faculty informative and supportive: “I think as a graduate student you’re always going to be closer to your professors than as an undergraduate. I felt I was joining their ranks as a grad student. In the end I felt that the professors were my friends and colleagues.”

    John Moore also stresses the importance of familiarizing yourself with faculty work before accepting. “If you’re a conceptual artist there’s going to be a group of schools with faculty who do that, and those will be more attractive to you than others,” he says. Indeed, when Moore, a respected figurative realist painter, took over as chair at Penn, applications from realist painters increased noticeably.

    Before accepting, make sure there’s someone whose work you admire, and make sure that they are accessible as a professor. Often the less-famous artists are the better teachers: you want to work with someone who values teaching, not just their own work.

    9. Take some time off.

    Consider taking a few years between your undergraduate and graduate degrees. In their time out of school Abigail worked in a photo store and struggled to build her own business, Danielle worked at the University of Pennsylvania Visual Arts program, Fran was a teacher in Trieste, Italy. “I would encourage taking at least 3-5 years off between graduate and undergraduate,” says Danielle. “The students who just came from undergraduate feel their social life is so important and that bleeds into the program. The older students really care about their professional careers, not partying. The ones who came straight from college are also more formulaic. They do what they did their senior year-they haven’t expanded. They also don’t want it as much, because all they’ve known is school. They don’t know 8 hour work days and trying to get to the studio afterwards. They don’t know how valuable time is.”

    Before you decide you need art school to be an artist, try being an artist while working. Some aim for pay-the-rent jobs-waitressing or working in a coffee shop-to free up their minds for their art. Others try to work within the art world: at a gallery, as an artist’s assistant, or in an art shop. This can be a good way to learn the business side of the art world-although, as with all business, be prepared to be disillusioned.

    10. Be prepared to defend your choice.
    Fran bemoans the funny looks she gets from some people when they hear she’s at art school. Laughing, she recalls how “at dinner parties when someone is in law school everyone will say, ‘Ooh, law school,’ and then when I say I go to art school there’s just this silence, or an ‘Oh.'” Danielle notes that “making art is so integral to your soul that you’re really vulnerable. You need to prove that its worthy of your time, your money, and the lifestyle you’re going to live. And you need someone outside your family and friends to recognize its value. It’s psychologically demanding.”

    Why endure the funny looks and the inherent insecurity of the MFA life? John Moore, who, before coming to Penn, worked at Boston University and at Temple’s Tyler School of Art, praises the MFA option. “Graduate school is attractive because it’s a gateway to the profession,” he points out. “An MFA is pretty much a necessity for teaching, unless you have a dramatic reputation in your field. But teaching’s not the main thing. People go to graduate school as previous generations of artists might have gone to Paris. It’s seen as the capstone to a career. Right now, it’s the only kind of forum where ideas are in the air and being constantly shaped.”

    An MFA is only a good career choice if you are committed to a life of art and teaching. If you think art is something you’d like to do on the side, then by all means do so. And skip the MFA.

    If, however, you want to put art right smack center in your life, then an MFA program might be just the thing to give you the skills, training, connections, and resources to be a fine artist.

    mia
  13. Art Management 是 藝術管理,顧名思義,管理藝術,即小從寫藝廊文案,跟文化單位申請補助金,大至經營藝美術館,募集資金等,跟管理有關的事情。Art Conservation 是保存及修復藝術品,藝術史知識要豐富,通常要求專精1-2種技術以利修復,例如修復壁畫或陶瓷器等等。

    koikukan
  14. To 酷妹:
    顧名思義,紐約州立大學(SUNY)系統是由”紐約州”政府所設立,其所屬分校分佈在紐約州各處;紐約市立大學(CUNY)系統則是由”紐約市”政府所設立,其所屬分校皆位於紐約市內。這兩間大學系統都是公立大學。至於紐約大學(NYU)則只有一間,是私立大學,位於紐約市曼哈頓內。

    Oscar
  15. 請問
    我想去紐約唸攝影,目前選定了只有SVA,還在找其他學校。目前在考慮Hunter,但是hunter似乎只有Integrated Media Art,看到之前也有學長姐想唸這間的攝影,想請問攝影是under在integrated media art系裡麼?? 如果申請這個系,可不可以單修攝影呢???

    請問在唸或是唸完攝影的學長學姊,攝影在美國好找工作麼?我很希望以後畢業可以就在紐約工作,但是又會擔心自己的計畫會很不實際….

    有任何建議 也歡迎寄到我信箱喔~^^~ –>ni.omei@hotmail.com

    謝謝:lol:!

    妮妮
  16. 妮妮: hunter的intergrated media art好像沒有特別說明他們有攝影課程, 你要看看課表才好, 不過我記得應該是不很注重攝影, Pratt的攝影也不錯, 妳可以考慮一下

    阿福站長
  17. hunter 的回音好久喔(感覺像石沉大海一樣)
    我正在申請轉學 spring2009
    可是我不九月底就申請出去了
    但他們說要等到 十一月中才會“開使”有消息耶
    ps 我等不及的原因是 因為我拿到UA的admission letter了
    但它要求我要在十一月初做出決定…厚 好為難喔!

    請問 在hunter的過來人/學長姐們 (no offense):
    hunter的graphic design 會不會比UA好?
    有沒有值得賭賭看的價值呢?

    coco
  18. 妮妮, hunter的integrated media art系我不太清楚,不過我就讀的hunter mfa裡也有攝影major,這major基本上是不太會注重在技術上面(就如yale或columbia的mfa一樣)主要會花很多時間在討論你對自己作品的想法,為什麼事這樣的想法?為什麼要拍這個東西或是為什麼是這個大小,跟藝術史上的脈落來比你的作品在什麼位子上?甚至在我上學期上課裡有一個是攝影為背景的學生被問到:妳為什麼會用攝影當你的vehicle(翻成承載體不知對不對…)?很多攝影major的學生其實都不再做攝影…因為大家現在都努力的找出屬於自己的genres或是art,結論是你想要當純藝術家的話,這科系會是你很好的選擇,就像我之前說的,以fine art來說hunter現在是紐約的top,如果你的目標不是在此,可以選其他的學校.

    在美國讀fine art五年的mia
  19. 1.大家好,由於自己不是本科系畢業的,又考慮到經濟問題,只能讀公立學校,
    像是市立紐約大學的幾個學院,都有必需修過30個以上藝術學分的問題,
    我有找到台灣藝術大學的學士學分班,http://uaap.ntua.edu.tw/exeducation/
    像是修這些推廣教育中心的學士學分班,是不是可以得到認可呢,
    而所謂的藝術學分,是有限定哪些科目嗎?
    2.所謂Studio Art這個主修的意思及主要的教學方向是如何?
    謝謝!!

    Anthony
  20. 各位好
    我要申請的是city college 的 media arts production
    有個問題我不太了解不知道大家可否幫我?
    學校的申請書說要寫sop
    可是系上的申請書內已經有所謂的specialization statement
    基本上這兩個幾乎是一樣的東西吧?
    可是我不知道到底要寫哪一個ㄋ?
    謝謝!

    Danny Wu
  21. 你好!我在申請CUNY City College的Media Communication Arts裡的Advertising&Public Relations系,我是申請大學部的,想從別的學校轉過去.不知道有沒有人對這學校的這個系有點了解呢?因為我之前有問過但感覺上沒有什麼人知道這個系好像也沒有什麼人申請,但我真的很需要多一些資訊.Thx!

    Cindy Huang
    1. 還是丟丟看吧~作品集很強的話,其實語言考試成績倒是比較其次…. 學校如果問了再解釋一下就好了

      畢業生
  22. 你好:之前看了您的文章,覺得你對CUNY的介紹好完整,其中HUNTER的介紹更是,因為我搜尋HUNTER大部分都只會有他比較著名的語言學校的經驗。我今年也申請了HUNTER,因為希望能夠待在曼哈頓,這間學校是我的第一志願,我申請的是教育心理學的研究所,但是幾乎搜尋不到有人念過這個系所。雖然知道您不是這個領域的,但不知道能不能請教您,有認識教育相關所的人或他們申請的經驗嗎?其實我的IBT沒有考到他的最低標準,我看他信中的篩選流程是會先看是否所有資格都符合才把資料給系上,覺得很擔心沒有辦法用工作經驗或其他的東西來彌補IBT的不足,您知道如果沒有到標準是否會直接刷掉呢?或者仍會被送往系上考慮,不知道HUNTER有沒有錄取但是要求先念語言學校的情形,因為我也是很有意願先就讀他的語言學校。感謝您^^

    lieben
    1. 我也有申請跟教育有關的碩士,但是我是申請華語教學的!HUNTER在台灣真的不是很有名氣耶,所以我想問的是這間學校在紐約是有名的嗎?是好學校嗎?我現在還在等學校是否錄取!

      小喬
  23. 我有申請city college的digital& interdiscp art practice 今天有收到錄取通知
    當初找資料的時候沒仔細看 學校網頁托福要求65 結果我後來申請丟出去後
    發現系上要90-91 但其實我只考77 (hunter和pratt的申請就沒有過)
    有人也有申請這間嗎? 我對這個系所也不是很了解說

    Larry
  24. 我是Hunter的研究生,主修都市計畫與城市事務,我也來回答一些上面的問題。
    我大學在台灣是念設計,美國的研究所喜歡不同領域的學生。CUNY系統的學校托福門檻都沒有很高,但是教授跟課程都很嚴謹,只要托福有到標準,CUNY都很歡迎外籍學生,但在我的系上,只有3個亞洲學生(適合練英文),其他同學幾乎都是白人與歐洲人。由於亞洲人偏向到紐約念商,Baruch的亞洲學生就比較多,CUNY的MFA亞洲人應該也不多。
    就我所知,Hunter沒有offer條件式入學,但是如果先來念Hunter的語校,對申請同校的研究所以一定有加分。CUNY在曼哈頓的分校都蠻搶手的,第一學費低,第二選課彈性,很多同學都是在業界工作美國人,他們相對起來都很認真,也很樂意幫助外國學生(甚至幫我修改作業!!)。
    CUNY跨系或跨校選課非常方便,也可以使用不同校的圖書館,我同時也有在Baruch上Finance的課。Hunter的位置在上東區,全紐約房價最高的地段,交通方便,接近中央公園、大都會博物館與麥迪遜精品大道;Baruch的位置接近中城,附近生活機能齊全。
    由於CUNY是公立學校,以教學品質、設備資源與在曼哈頓的地理位置來說,物超所值。
    雖然說紐約生活費很高,但是由於交通方便,住曼哈頓以外的地區通地鐵上課(皇后區、布魯克林區、或紐澤西),可以省很多錢,而且日常生活費也比曼哈頓便宜。前提是你沒有失手血拼,紐約真的很好買!!!
    總結一下Hunter的優點,入學門檻適中,但教授跟課程嚴謹,同學幾乎都是美國人,想混或是只是想要學歷的學生會很辛苦;可以跨校跨系選課,使用各校資源;地理位置在上東區;學費合理。
    希望有幫助一些想來念CUNY的朋友!!

    關於Hunter
    1. 謝謝你完整的回覆~~後來我通過他的電話interview,教授原推薦我入學了,後來院在做決定時還是因為托福沒有達到標準而沒有錄取。目前準備先念他的語言學校~~不過我覺得這間學校的行政效率好像特別慢~~有點擔心連語言學校的I-20都要很久才核發><

      lieben

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